Subject: Roy, Brian, Silber98, Martin, David and other Nav gurus Author: jcarey (moderator) : member since January, 2004 : 2434 posts Posted on: 2006-03-02 11:20:56

I would like to build a sticky or reference ink to e38.org for newbies and others looking to buy Nav computers. Recently a few people have been burned with a MKIII-SZ computer which won't work in the normal SA609 optional navigation configuration. Also I have read of people buying what they were told was a MKIV only to learn they got a NAVI01 (Most bus) type that won't work for iBus based vehicles. Also the monochrmoe Radio Nav version of the MKIII don't appear to be capable of supporting the color screens.

Where i am heading with this is to suggest that we put our heads together to create a definition of the several navigation computer types that are found on eBay and elsewhere too, that can act as a guide for people looking to by them for upgrades and retrofits?

Roy I know you compiled a list of TV modules part numbers, did you do the same for Nav computers? I have several part no's collected and using the ETK supercession feature, I have established which ones replaced which parts up to a point. There are so many part no's used it might be impossible to create a complete listing, but we can try to at least reveal the research we have done ourselves to help these poor souls.

The tricky part comes in when you are moving up a generation because the BMW ETK supercession string or parts use database won't tell you if the new Nav computer fits into any model BMW didn't build it into. That's where our knwoledge and experiences will come in.

You guys want to take this on with me? We can discuss the tasks and who will do which part of the work off-line or here on the forum I don't care either way.

I don't mean to exclude anyone who reads and participates here from this effort, so if I didn't list your name above, it is not to imply only these members are able to participate. Just chime in if you have a better idea, information to add or are willing to do some research.
cheers,

John

Bettie is my Jet Black '98 740iL currently @ 89K miles

• Roy, Brian, Silber98, Martin, David and other Nav gurus - jcarey 2006-03-02 11:20:56 (401 views)
  • 1st Draft of some text. Please give me all your feedback... - Brian 2006-03-06 14:00:20 (784 views)
    • Brian, good stuff, I'll copy and paste this into a draft post for further review - jcarey 2006-03-07 01:21:23 (178 views)
      • Your original PN & Picture post was pretty excellent. - Brian 2006-03-07 10:36:41 (171 views)
    • I'll try to get some pics for the MKII (SZ) computer. My digital is barely work - Dragnet 2006-03-06 14:16:37 (152 views)
      • Thanks a ton. Any pictures you can provide would be very helpful. - Brian 2006-03-06 14:53:05 (143 views)
        • Here you go Brian, thanks for the work guys. Pictures of MKII SZ computer... (pic) - Dragnet 2006-03-06 15:16:15 (340 views)
  • Do you think that it would be possible or legal to post those that are ripping - kepdan 2006-03-06 12:31:50 (202 views)
  • Navigation Upgrade compatibility Chart - comments? (pic) - jcarey 2006-03-04 20:15:17 (609 views)
    • Oh yeah, and also include the ''Monochrome'' MKIII and MKIV computers (nt) - Brian 2006-03-06 09:02:07 (212 views)
    • There is also a MKII-SZ, and MKI to MKII need cable 61.12-8 377 432 (nt) - Brian 2006-03-06 09:00:45 (235 views)
    • E39 Sedan - MKI to MKIII/IV - 61 12 6 915 132 (pic) - joel 2006-03-05 17:23:57 (408 views)
      • Got it, thanks (nt) - jcarey 2006-03-05 18:44:19 (152 views)
    • MKI to MKII needs a different adapter cable to get to the GPS - Roy In GA 2006-03-05 00:43:37 (192 views)
  • Nav computer Part numbers and photos by generation listing (pic) - jcarey 2006-03-04 14:38:05 (1549 views)
    • Re: Nav computer Part numbers and photos by generation listing - kgtg 2006-03-06 18:16:20 (228 views)
    • Let me know when this is finalized and I'll add it to e38.org (nt) - DavidC 2006-03-06 04:58:21 (134 views)
    • John I am working on the corrections to these numbers. Several of them! (nt) - Roy In GA 2006-03-05 22:22:11 (154 views)
    • Good job on the pictures, I'll compare my number list to yours tomorrow. (nt) - Roy In GA 2006-03-05 00:39:41 (140 views)
    • I forgot to include the part no for the MKIII-SZ computer - jcarey 2006-03-04 19:29:10 (178 views)
      • Re: MKlll-SZ pics as requested. (pic) - maximundo 2006-03-07 02:47:53 (287 views)
        • Thank you. And this is not what I expected at all. - Brian 2006-03-07 06:35:13 (140 views)
          • Is there a cable that I can use???!!! - maximundo 2006-03-07 08:08:30 (143 views)
            • I don't think so. - Brian 2006-03-07 08:49:44 (112 views)
      • By the way SZ translates to Optional Accessory (nt) - jcarey 2006-03-05 15:32:56 (141 views)
  • Can someone post pics of the ACCESSORY nav computers ? - tdaniely 2006-03-03 10:39:22 (180 views)
    • Now you tell me what not to buy! Your about 5 years too late... - Dragnet 2006-03-04 03:12:06 (199 views)
    • Dragnet has one and posted some pics earlier. We can hit him up for more. (nt) - Brian 2006-03-03 12:37:14 (121 views)
      • There ae 2 types I think. The SZ and the one for 602 system. (nt) - Roy In GA 2006-03-04 00:32:47 (174 views)
  • I do not mind trying to organize and write it, but others have most of the data - Brian 2006-03-03 06:24:10 (171 views)
    • A good outline Brian, I have a supercession list for MKII and MKIII - jcarey 2006-03-03 10:04:06 (232 views)
  • We need pictures of the e65 units also as X5 world doesn't have them. I'll try - Roy In GA 2006-03-03 01:35:10 (176 views)
    • Can I help with E65 DVD images? - cliffwilliams 2006-03-04 07:19:26 (177 views)
      • Cliff I think I have a shot of the E65 version (pic) - jcarey 2006-03-04 10:38:18 (299 views)
        • Is that a trick question? They are both the same !! - cliffwilliams 2006-03-04 11:14:13 (626 views)
          • Oops, I thought one was the MKIV most and one was the NAVI 01 CD. - jcarey 2006-03-04 11:56:37 (176 views)
            • I know BMWNA were swapping out CD for DVD units - cliffwilliams 2006-03-04 12:48:51 (187 views)
              • CD unit is NAVI 01 and DVD unit is NAVI 02 and both have green and - Roy In GA 2006-03-05 21:03:02 (182 views)
    • Roy and silber, what are some examples you know of yellow-plug nav computers? (nt) - Brian 2006-03-03 06:30:14 (137 views)
      • Just the early MK2 Nav computers like the one that came from my 01/98 740IL. (pic) - silber98 2006-03-04 07:38:11 (238 views)
      • I have only seen 2 and they were early MKIIs. Calypso had one of them and - Roy In GA 2006-03-04 00:30:22 (136 views)
  • Here are some high res photos of MK1, MK2, MK3 (pic) - tdaniely 2006-03-02 15:05:23 (500 views)
    • Do you have some picture of the back that are not so close up? More like the - Roy In GA 2006-03-03 01:31:14 (134 views)
      • Yes, will post those in a bit (nt) - tdaniely 2006-03-03 08:35:51 (145 views)
  • I'm All In! I will start organizing my thoughts. (nt) - Brian 2006-03-02 14:22:43 (162 views)
  • Agree, I would be nice to have pictures of front and back of the MK units to aid (url) - silber98 2006-03-02 13:17:20 (216 views)
    • Damn Silber98...we think alike, I just posted pics (nt) - tdaniely 2006-03-02 15:05:53 (149 views)
  • Yes, I will start looking up some more data. I put up a MKIV list afew days ago. (nt) - Roy In GA 2006-03-02 12:48:09 (192 views)